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That was just too much information coming out me so is Telegram private or not? And is Signal private or not? Thanks.

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In short, no. The door is now open to Telegram handing over message data related to specific accounts, groups, or message based on requests from authorities.

Yasha Levine has argued that Signal is a government op: https://yasha.substack.com/p/signal-is-a-government-op-85e

We hope that helps!

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Telegram's DMs were never encrypted. I knew and understood that when I started using it in 2020.

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I’m sure the US State Department threats were not small.

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